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It might be my own clash, except that my husband doesn't want a domestic discipline relationship, it's just some part of me that does. So it was with great anticipation and curiosity that I read Body Politics. How would Cara treat the subject closest to my heart?
For the most part, she nails it. I could be Stephanie - a liberated career woman. I didn't take my husband's name when I married because, like Stephanie, I already had established a name for myself in the press and community as the founder and director of a non-profit (arts not feminist). I have marched on Washington for women's rights. I believe in equality and I am grateful to the women who paved the way for me to have it.
And Cara gets it - the attraction to submission for Stephanie is sexual, not political. Sara at Finding Sara wrote about this recently, confirming what I already firmly believed. She said that after her surgery and resulting hormone dip, DD held absolutely no interest for her. Being spanked for swearing at her husband? Not a deterrent.
Cara does poke a little fun at feminism. Stephanie's hero is Gloria Steinham and so instead of thinking things like "Oh God," or even "Oh Goddess," as many of my friends phrase it, Stephanie thinks "Oh Gloria." It's hilarious, and also slightly offensive to me, because I don't want Stephanie's feminism to be over the top, where it can be laughed at. Feminism isn't funny. Nor are the things that feminism seeks to correct: Inequality isn't funny. Lack of rights isn't funny. Domestic and sexual abuse aren't even remotely amusing.
Then again, Cara treats the Rod and Cane Society with humor as much as she does the feminists. The organization is over the top creepy, so much so that it becomes downright silly, which is good, because otherwise, it's downright offensive.
I am of the generation that came after the bra-burners. I was once scolded by an older woman in my office when I said I didn't mind traveling with the CEO, even though he only wanted me along because I was a pretty young thing. "My generation worked hard for equality in the workplace so that you don't have to think about it," she snapped. "You did, and I am very grateful for it," I answered sincerely. I didn't mean to be taking a step back for my gender by allowing myself to be objectified. But I also couldn't help being a pretty young thing and I had career aspirations that would be promoted by traveling with the boss. I was certainly of the lipstick feminists.
So how does feminism reconcile with domestic discipline? Cara does a good job of keeping it in the sexual arena. Does Mark think Stephanie deserves to be spanked? Yes, but he's also quite clear that he desires to spank her. It turns him on to be a leader, just as it turns her on to relinquish control. Without that piece, it would offend me, even with consent. Because we ARE talking politics here - and this book will necessarily bring to question - what are the politics of domestic discipline? Are they about a man being better equipped to make decisions and therefore inflict punishment? Are they about a relationship in which one person must choose to be with the other knowing that other person spanks? So consent is given, but it's reluctant-- the choice is abuse or losing the person you love? I am saddened by this scenario and I know it exists in fiction and real life.
Honestly, my teeth get set on edge when it's the spanker who brings the DD to the relationship and the spankee doesn't like it but goes along with it anyway. And of course, it all turns me on at the same time. Because non-con is hot. That first spanking scene in Body Politics, where she doesn't think she likes it, is thinking he's a misogynist pig, but still submits is HOT. I got off. (TMI?) But, what if, like Sara experienced recently, my hormones were zilch and it didn't turn me on? Then it would still work for me, because Cara showed that the characters got off too. Even as Stephanie's mind rebelled, her body said yummy.
That's how it was for me until I understood and embraced my kink. I berated myself for liking to defer to my man, for wanting him to take charge, for dreaming of being turned over his knee and spanked like the naughty girl that I am. Until I was able to tease out the differences between politics and sex, it was terribly confusing to be me.
In Body Politics, Stephanie thinks: "She shouldn't have have wanted a man who claimed entitlement to spank her because she was female and he was male." I actually don't think I could ever ever go there. There is no entitlement accorded men to spank women and even though I LOVE submission, spanking and being dominated, I don't think I could submit to someone who actually believed they had a right to spank or make decisions. It's gotta be a choice that works for both parties because they each prefer their role - and embracing the base sexual attraction of wanting a particular role is what makes it empowering, regardless of whether it's the dominant or the submissive position. I had posted this on the Facebook Spanking Fiction site - I don't believe power is out of balance in a DD relationship, or perhaps I should say, it shouldn't be. It's the twist of the yin and yang symbol - a giving and receiving that swirls the power, but the balance should remain equal.
There's one other political issue that's touched on in Body Politics where our intelligent, educated feminist Stephanie fondly imagines that Mark will spank their children. WHAT??! Sorry, I can't go there, either. 'nuff said.
As Anastasia Vitsky titled her review of Body Politics on Amazon: "I may not like the Politics, but Body Politics is a great read." I concur. Cara Bristol is a top notch writer. I teared up at Stephanie's challenges, got wet at her turn-ons, and enjoyed every minute of the ride. This book is not to be missed. Well done, Cara!

Absolutely perfectly said. Not much else for me to add except well done.
ReplyDeleteReally? thanks! But I already knew you were my feminist soul sister... :)
DeleteI couldn't agree more with your comments. I am of the bra burner generation and I could not accept anything less than what I am - a full fledged equal member of society. My choice to yield in the bedroom doesn't mean I want to yield elsewhere even if I enjoyed the fantasy of it - the reality is more than I could ever embrace.
ReplyDeleteI too loved the read.
Thank you, Sunnygirl. I had a feeling you would. My salutes to you for paving the way to equality for the next generation. :)
DeleteI just purchased Cara's book for my Kindle. Thank you for your extensive review of the topic and relating it to your personal experiences.
ReplyDeleteMy wife made a significant contribution to the rights of females in the workplace with me at her side. I lead in the bedroom, but we are equal in every way.
Now that I have finished your book, I am looking forward to reading Cara's.
Hug,
joey
Ooh, I made a sale! I am so grateful to the women (and men) who helped change the inequality of women in the workplace.
DeleteI hope you enjoyed my book! hugs to you, Joey!
Thank you, Joey!
DeleteWow, Renee. I appreciate the depth with which you analyzed Body Politics. Good job. It was an absolute joy to write, my favorite so far. I hope readers will be entertained. If they find it thought-provoking, then that's good too!
ReplyDeleteMy pleasure!!
DeleteRenee: What an incredible in-depth review and look into Body Politics. I love the amount of ground you covered in here in one post and how some heavy issues were still tied into the book (great job there). I'll definitely give Body Politics a read ;o)
ReplyDeleteThank you Bleuame - I'm glad I converted another reader! :)
DeleteThanks, Renee! And thank you Bleume.
DeleteIt is about choice isn't it. Someone chooses in someway to'submit' (not sure if that is the only word I would use)Someone prefers to be lead. It should be a mutually beneficial relationship. The power comes from that yin and yang like you said. Each person needs the other. And in a real DD relationship I imagine it changes always.
ReplyDeleteI also love the fantasy of non-con.The question. of the what if.
I think the magic word is choice and both parties choose (or chose in the case of the book) this relationship.
ReplyDeleteI was very curious how Cara was going to do this but after that first scene where Stephanie submits (which was totally HOT), it all worked. The fact that she is a feminist but finds submission in the bedroom a turn on doesn't seem so foreign to me.
I'm not a feminist but I am definitely the boss of a lot of things in our home/family life :) We do not have a DD relationship - I'm not sure I want that even - but in the bedroom, the one thing that turns me on is submission. I don't feel any less equal and that doesn't go beyond the bedroom. I feel - on the contrary - empowered to have spoken up (very recent so I'm still basking).
I enjoyed this read very much - it was my first from Cara. I'd started with Unexpected Consequences but switched over for Celeste Jones' Book Club discussions. I only got a bit into that one and I like Stephanie (in BP) partly because she is a strong woman. Not sure how I'm going to feel about Melania!! We shall see.
Glad you're enjoying Body Politics. Melania and Stephanie are two different heroines, that's true. My goal in Unexpected Consequences was to introduce readers to the Rod and Cane Society. I was intrigued by real-life practitioners of DD who keep their practice secret from their children and families. So Melania, though the offspring of DD practicing parents, she has no idea what the Rod and Cane Society is all about or what DD will really mean to her life. As an author who sometimes wants to put her characters in tough situations, I liked that Melania was naive and would be shocked. In all honesty, readers have had a mixed reaction to UC, and some did not care for her naivete. Emma Dupree in False Pretenses, the second Rod and Cane book, is more like Stephanie. Strong, independent. BTW, all Rod and Cane books are written as stand alones. You don't have to read them in order.
DeleteI just purchased the book after reading your post. I sooo agree with what you've said about feminism. I think we were born in the same decade :-)
ReplyDeleteI bet we were!! Let me know what you think!
DeleteVery well said, Renee. I think Cara did a great job showing the push-pull of That Thing We Do. Steph did need to tell Mark to keep his iron paws off the kiddies, tho. LOL!
ReplyDeleteAnd honey, feminism IS funny. Cara nailed that one. Oh Gloria! Cracked me up. What makes it hysterical are the turns people take at it, when really it is about choice. Simple. To me,at least.
In a true consensual session of discipline it is the spankee who sets the parameters, not the spanker. A female (or male) who submits to such a spanking is not demeaning him/herself but is seeking gratification and possibly other advantages including the possibility of a switch that turns the tables. A classic example of this is in the new sexy political novel "Towers of Framden" which is also a thriller. Councillor Melanie Sheldrake deliberately submits to a spanking to her arch rival in order to change his political direction and draw him into her plans.
ReplyDeleteExcellent point, Councillor!
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